“Prison is exactly where she belonged for obvious reasons,” she said on the podcast. “Karla needed to be contained, monitored, regimented, and above all, drug-free. Finding God helped her reconstruct her identity and separate her new self from her old murderous self. It helped her find stability after a life filled with instability and chaos.

“… There could be many reasons why Karla found God in prison. Many people do. We come across many killers who make the same claims. But with Karla, she eventually had masses of people across the country rooting for her.”

Pickax used by Texas death row inmate Karla Faye Tucker.
Pickax used by Texas death row inmate Karla Faye Tucker.Houston Chronicle

“But as I see it, Karla Faye Tucker was everybody’s worst nightmare,” she continued. “She was a hedonist who lived a life of drugs, sex, rock ‘n’ roll and, above all, violence.

“She was a woman who sexually enjoyed killing another person, and she was proud of it. Juries are afraid of people like Karla. They not only want them contained, but they want them gone forever from the face of this Earth and from our collective consciousness.”

Tucker’s case drew appeals from numerous religious groups. That didn’t stop her execution. Garrett, who was also sentenced to death, died in prison in 1993 from complications related to hepatitis.

Tucker was the first woman executed in Texas since the Civil War. Her case remains central to debates over capital punishment and rehabilitation.